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Friday, September 24, 2004

Issues, Part 6: Economic Stimulus

Part 6 of my discussion of issues in this election, based on comments made by Nicolas Farly on Farleyman's Blog (Part 1,Part 2,Part 3, Part 4, Part 5) Nic Said:

6. I feel the Bush Tax-based system for recovery is horrific. While it temporarily has brought about relief for America it will hurt us in the long run with the increased deficit leaving future generations to foot the bill. "When the economy needed short-run stimulus without increasing the long-run deficit, President Bush got it backwards, passing an initial round of tax cuts that Economy.com found had no effect in lifting us out of recession.” He then passed more deficit-increasing tax cuts that Goldman Sachs described as "especially ineffective as a stimulative measure." When small businesses and families needed relief from skyrocketing health-care and energy costs, he chose sweetheart deals for special interests over serious plans to reduce costs and help spur new job creation."
I am skeptical of the power of the President, or Government in general to have much effect on the economy. In my opinion, the best thing they can do is stay out of the way. This doesn't mean that I oppose all government regulation, but I don't think it is the Government's job to spur new job creation. Even if I were to be convinced that it was the Government's job, it is highly unlikely that I would be convinced that they could do it well. The 2001 recession was a natural, and needed correction from the over-optimistic bubble of the late 90s. The fundamentals of the economy were still sound and a recovery was, in my opinion, pretty much assured. As to the issue of the tax cuts, well, in the words of Zell Miller, "I never saw a tax cut I didn't like." Yes, I disapprove of deficit spending and in a perfect world a tax cut would go hand in hand with a spending cut. Unfortunately, there are few politicians who don't like to spend money. Even so, I still like the tax cut. My theory is that there is an acceptable level of deficit spending that is going to exist. The only times this won't occur is when the government is strongly partisan and divided between the parties (yes, from a purely economic standpoint this does mean that I think a Kerry victory would be a good thing). Absent these conditions the government will overspend to a politically acceptable level. War increases where this acceptable level is, and that is why we have such high deficit spending currently. The fundamental problem though is how much the government spends, not how they finance it (taxes or deficit spending). Since I believe that the government will deficit spend to a politically acceptable level, a tax cut will still cut the total amount of government spending. I am aware that this is purely a theory and many economists would disagree with me on this (others would agree, thats the great thing about economists, you can always find someone who agrees with just about anything). As to the specific merits of this tax cut, as opposed to other tax cuts that could theoretically be implimented. This one seems pretty good to me. The most important step that we could take is to simplify the tax code. Both Bush and Kerry have come out in favor of this, although I am sure the exact measures each would take to do so would be different. However, this is something that is most likely to be accomplished if a single party is in control of congress and the presidency. Since there is no chance that Democrats will retake control of the House and it is very unlikely they will take control of the senate, a Bush victory seems the most likely way that this will happen.

3 Comments:

Blogger IncrediblyX said...

No one has the power like Alan Greenspan. I don't think tax cuts have changed anything, President Bush keeps trying to repeat our failures such as Reagonomics. It failed miserably in the 80's so why should it work now? It's still not working. My uncle recently got laid off from his job after 25 years... he gets no retirement or anything. All thanks to Bush giving tax benefits to large companies who abuse the benefit and move jobs overseas. Largest surplus in history to the largest financial debt in history... I'm not voting for that madman.

9/24/2004 01:23:00 PM  
Blogger Man of Issachar said...

"It failed miserably in the 80's so why should it work now? It's still not working."

hmmm i would say that is a load of crap. read the link below

http://www.hillsdale.edu/newimprimis/2004/august/georgegilder.htm


"My uncle recently got laid off from his job after 25 years... he gets no retirement or anything."

I feel sorry for you uncle, but he could have saved himself. Secondly, bush plan for social security is to let people own their own retirment, so that situations like that will not happen.


"All thanks to Bush giving tax benefits to large companies who abuse the benefit and move jobs overseas."

Outsoucing
http://www.danieldrezner.com/archives/001647.html

The GAO says it is not as bad as you think.

"Largest surplus in history to the largest financial debt in history..."

Largest financial debt in history that is ture, but we also have the largest GDP in history, the largest population, the largest tax base (money wise), and more TV's than ever before. The debt means nothing, it is only 4 percent of our GDP, that ani't nothing.

9/24/2004 03:30:00 PM  
Blogger Dave Justus said...

The Fed certainly does have a lot of power. When I said Government I probably should have been more specific and said elected officials. For examply, when any president says they will create X number of jobs they are really just hoping that that many jobs will be created on their watch. They don't have a lot of control over it. State and local governments have a lot more effect on how competitive their states/localities are in comparison to others but I am unsure how much this effects overall numbers at the national level.

I didn't say deficit spending 'ain't nothing'. I said from a political standpoint politicians will spend money, more than they should and a level of deficit spending will probably occur. As I said, too much spending is the problem because it forces either deficit spending or higher taxation, either of which is a drag on the economy. I am agnostic as to which, deficits or taxes, is worse, I expect they are pretty close.

Reaganomics assumes that rich people will be more likely to make capital investments than poor people and hence grow the economy. Many economomists disagree with each other on whether this works or not. It is probably true that it is less effective than giving money to the poor for short term economic stimulus. Long term it may be better for growing the economy, but it is difficult to determine long term effects of any one factor since economics is such a complex study.

9/28/2004 09:56:00 AM  

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